Post by Admin on Feb 23, 2016 6:02:19 GMT
I recently looked up the term, 'moslem'. Google that, then click on the history news network article (number 524). A great read, but while scrolling through the comments, I found myself humbled by what "Dave" said in respects to the truth about islam. 90% at the least of what he said, I have been saying for years now. Dave, please take a bow, I thank you with all my heart, sir! You have made me feel validated a bit for attempting to research, ask questions, read many articles and opinions about this subject. Sir, because of your statement below, I feel that I have not wasted my time at all. God bless you and yours, Dave!
DAVE REPLIES: What are you talking about? The koran was written 1400 years ago by mohammed and is based on the Jewish Torah which was written over 3500 years ago - over 2000 years before mohammed. The Koran also has large parts of the Christian bible (the bible was written over 1970 years ago, 470 years before the Koran).
Islam is the youngest of religions - it is based on the Torah but reworked by Mohammed to claim superiority over the Torah. What you are presumably referring to is the Arab tribes that Mohamed converted and used - many of whom idol worshiped and followed Allat (pronounced Allah). These tribes worshiped Allat in the outskirts of the region Mohammed begun preaching his new religion of Islam. And they had worshiped Allat a long, long time before before Mohammed came onto the scene.
In fact Allat (Pronounced Allah) was the Arab dessert goddess of the underworld, and she was a very very popular goddess amongst the stronger tribes in the region of Mecca who worshiped multiple gods and idols. So Mohamed took this as a starting point to rally support from the local Arab culture, and then he took the well established Torah and Christian texts and wrote a new book which better suited the implementation of Allah as God. He used the torah event where God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son to show his commitment to God as the principle idea of the entire religion - submission.
The fact God told Abraham he didnt have him to go through with the sacrifise wasnt important to mohammed, what was important was the idea of submitting to what god wants even if it means killing your own children. And the name Islam was formed (Islam is the Arabic word for total submission). Eid is the celebration of this Jewish event where Abraham submitted to Gods will. Mohammed then enforced his new religion by writing that Abraham (the original Jew from the Torah) and his son Ishmal went to Mecca and built the kabal to house the Idols of Allat.
Abraham lived over 3000 years before mohammed started writing this and the Torah never mentions Allat or Mecca so its doubtfull. besies Mohammed was a camel salesman before he started Islam - so hardly the most trustworthy of characters. Obviously sitting on your own meditating in a cave for months on end was enough to make opeople think he was a man of god who could rewrite history to suit what god really meant. The Koran is a new (many legitimately say plagerised) version of the Jewish Torah created at least 2000 years after the Tora was first written.
I suggest investigating more before coming up with your wild claims. Islam does not reflect ANY of the cultures in Arabia at that time - it is a totally different beast which consumed all it could in its conception to acquire followers - and then harshly increased its following with violence and zero tolerance when it gained strength. Hence why the original arabic pronunciation of the word Moslem sounds like Mawzlem to arabs - because that word means oppressors. and yes, when Mohammed started Islam was oppressive to everyone of that region.
Arabs did NOT used to be synonymous with Islam - far from it there were very few Arabs who were Moslem. They are now because of the huge Islamic conquests which followed the teachings of Mohammed.
DAVE REPLIES: What are you talking about? The koran was written 1400 years ago by mohammed and is based on the Jewish Torah which was written over 3500 years ago - over 2000 years before mohammed. The Koran also has large parts of the Christian bible (the bible was written over 1970 years ago, 470 years before the Koran).
Islam is the youngest of religions - it is based on the Torah but reworked by Mohammed to claim superiority over the Torah. What you are presumably referring to is the Arab tribes that Mohamed converted and used - many of whom idol worshiped and followed Allat (pronounced Allah). These tribes worshiped Allat in the outskirts of the region Mohammed begun preaching his new religion of Islam. And they had worshiped Allat a long, long time before before Mohammed came onto the scene.
In fact Allat (Pronounced Allah) was the Arab dessert goddess of the underworld, and she was a very very popular goddess amongst the stronger tribes in the region of Mecca who worshiped multiple gods and idols. So Mohamed took this as a starting point to rally support from the local Arab culture, and then he took the well established Torah and Christian texts and wrote a new book which better suited the implementation of Allah as God. He used the torah event where God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son to show his commitment to God as the principle idea of the entire religion - submission.
The fact God told Abraham he didnt have him to go through with the sacrifise wasnt important to mohammed, what was important was the idea of submitting to what god wants even if it means killing your own children. And the name Islam was formed (Islam is the Arabic word for total submission). Eid is the celebration of this Jewish event where Abraham submitted to Gods will. Mohammed then enforced his new religion by writing that Abraham (the original Jew from the Torah) and his son Ishmal went to Mecca and built the kabal to house the Idols of Allat.
Abraham lived over 3000 years before mohammed started writing this and the Torah never mentions Allat or Mecca so its doubtfull. besies Mohammed was a camel salesman before he started Islam - so hardly the most trustworthy of characters. Obviously sitting on your own meditating in a cave for months on end was enough to make opeople think he was a man of god who could rewrite history to suit what god really meant. The Koran is a new (many legitimately say plagerised) version of the Jewish Torah created at least 2000 years after the Tora was first written.
I suggest investigating more before coming up with your wild claims. Islam does not reflect ANY of the cultures in Arabia at that time - it is a totally different beast which consumed all it could in its conception to acquire followers - and then harshly increased its following with violence and zero tolerance when it gained strength. Hence why the original arabic pronunciation of the word Moslem sounds like Mawzlem to arabs - because that word means oppressors. and yes, when Mohammed started Islam was oppressive to everyone of that region.
Arabs did NOT used to be synonymous with Islam - far from it there were very few Arabs who were Moslem. They are now because of the huge Islamic conquests which followed the teachings of Mohammed.